ZMA OR TRIBULUS TERRESTRIS

Hello, I've tried using Tribulus Terrestris at nights and before lifting but I haven't gotten the best results well at least I haven't seemed to notice its impact, if any. From what I read it helps your natural growth hormone increase = more muscle, less fat.

I've also just tried regular zinc, not ZMA, just plain zinc also to help promote strength gain. The results have been the same, nothing.

I'm just wondering if anyone has had any luck with either of these or has any recommendations for a sup that will help boost my GH/Testostrone and promote muscle gain and fat loss.

Thanks much and sorry if this note is choppy, I'm a little shakey still after a tough squat day. :p

Peace, Madbird

i have used ZMA and i experienced very good drastic gains at first. i took it before bed and even got wild dreams at first. the gains leveled off after a ahwile so i think it is important to cycle it off and on. tribulus worked for me as well but mostly i found it was good for me to get a harder look for contest when i was already in shape. i took the tribulus through out the day.

I am currently using ON's ZMA and i love it, i have crazy vivid dreams, i am sleeping better since taking it as ive been dieting pretty hard lately. and I have been having a side effect, can you say tiger WOOD! lol

i just ordered four bottles of ONs ZMA after reading brads post.

I'm new to this site but learning a lot from your inputs.

I just compared ON's (I take Pro Compex religiously)ZMA to my multi-vitamin and it only provides 5 more milligrams of zinc, about 200mg more magnesium, and about 10mg more B6. Can it really make that big of a difference over just a multi?

I've taken ZMA before and loved it but after reading my multi about 3 years ago I didn't quite understand the point, can anyone please explain, and according to ON's product description it is a patented blend. Love On but is that just a marketing technique or is there really a science behind it?

Any danger of taking too much? Or will your body just dispose of any extra?

also i would recommend cycling off and on it every few weeks

I always thought it was funny when all the multi vitamins have all their stuff listed as 200% or more of the daily value. I just assumed that only under extreme conditions would your body use it all, under the rest, you'd just have very yellow pee.

that 200% of daily recommended value is based on fda regulations made in the 70s. you actually need more then the 100% recommended. the 100% should be thought of as a minimum. thats why they put more in the multi-vites.
i dont think you should go for heavy doses, i would say follow whats on the bottle and when it doesnt seem to be working the same thats when you cycle off for a few weeks.